I have several problems with the logic and statements in this podcast. The person interviewed is knowledgeable, well-spoken, and not confrontational. And he does not interrupt or challenge or distract - he sticks to his points, and I appreciate that.
The whole interview is premature - discussing the intents and results of an unpublished study is as foolish as the statement from the lawyer that the investigators had a conclusion before they started. One simply cannot draw any conclusions from a study that is unpublished - these results amount to "leaked" results before a study is published, and the methods are not published.
Having said that, some knowledge of the Ford study methods was clearly made public at a hearing, and the methods were flawed. This biostatistican's commentary on what is known of the study mentions that the vaccinated kids were studied for far longer ("surveillance bias") and by a different set of doctors with more than 3 times as many doctor visits annually.
0:44, 1:35 the investigators "wanted" a pro-vaccine result. This is the lawyer's view, not any statement from the investigators. Every investigator has a bias or a hope that the results of their study may go a particular way, but they are ethically bound and bound by scientific method to avoid biasing the results. No one is perfect and ethical, so there are scientists who falsify results and they are ultimately uncovered, through peer review, external data review, and revelations from jilted employees and so on.
0:07 in the video. His statements that vaccines are not placebo tested is false. Here are 2 papers addressing that, one fact-checking that vaccines are placebo controlled unless it's unethical to do so, and the other discussing specific situations where a placebo is unethical.
3:01 "these chronic diseases can be caused by immune system dysregulation" - yes for asthma and atopy, but not for ADHD, tics, learning disability, speech defects. Autoimmune connections to these have been proposed or associated for tics and ADHD but are not proven as causative.
3:37 "a positive result would have been published." 5:02 "probably been hushed up." Every scientist that puts hundreds of hours' work into a study tries hard to get it published. The report about the hearing for this study says it was not published because of serious flaws with methodology, not because of a conspiracy to suppress the results. But conspiracy theories are very hard to disprove because almost any statement to disprove then can be considered false by one who believes the theory.
7:09 they did not investigate "overall health outcomes" - this is not done in studies. It is done during the FDA approval process phase 2 and phase 3 drug trials where healthy subjects are given a medication and all possible side effects are recorded without regard to cause, and compared to the placebo group, and they are inherently small and of short duration to keep costs down. In drug studies after FDA approval, as would be the case for established vaccines, they look at outcomes directly related to the drug mechanism; if one were to look at every possible overall health outcome in a blood pressure medication, for instance, for every 20 outcomes you look at one would be positive merely by chance, since studies generally consider outcomes positive if there's a less than 5% chance that the outcome is due to chance...when you look at 20 outcomes, those chances cumulatively add up to 100% for at least one outcome, so this is not done.
9:14 "clobbering the immune system [with multiple vaccines simultaneously.] He incorrectly asserts that the body only deals with one foreign protein at a time. If you leave a piece of bread or fruit out, it quickly becomes covered with mold or bacteria. These spores or bacteria that spoil our groceries are abundant in the air we breathe, and our body fights off many every day. We may be breathing in 60,000 spores every day. The immune system is perfectly designed to handle many simultaneous insults. On the contrary, quite alarmingly, if one gets measles because they weren't vaccinated, it can cause the loss of previous immunity to other diseases, known as "immune amnesia," as follows:
"In a normal, healthy vaccinated person, we can expected a 5% to 10% drop in antibodies over time," ...After severe measles, children lost a median of 40% (range, 11% to 62%), and after mild measles they lost 33% (range, 12% to 73%), of their total preexisting pathogen-specific antibody repertoires." Ref
9:40 vaccination depletes vitamin D 10:43 the "topsy curve" of multiple synchronous vaccines...
I was not previously aware that an immune response uses up vitamin D, but that's true. However, given that our immune system is fighting many foreign substance every day, it is unlikely that a response to a vaccine is going to deplete our vitamin D stores to a significant degree. The actual amount of vitamin D needed is not known and is complex: "However, the specific serum 25-(OH) D level that would be relevant to vitamin D's immune actions has not yet been defined. There are also inter-individual variations in production of vitamin D, dietary intake, VDR and other pathway genetic polymorphisms that might make a universal recommendation for an ideal "target" [vitamin] D level difficult given our relative lack of knowledge." ref
Having said that, it's easy to generate vitamin D from sunlight [except during the darkest periods of winter when we cover ourselves with warm clothing and spend little time outside] - "8 to 10 minutes of sun exposure at noon produces the recommended amount of vitamin D." ref Probably a good supplement for all of us to take during the winter.
12:54 "frightening...neurodevelopmental disease...neurons can't regenerate." This is scaremongering. There is no proven link between autoimmune and the chronic diseases he refers to. There are diseases like Multiple Sclerosis that are autoimmune neuron destruction, but it is a big leap from vaccination to immune dysfunction to neurologic disease like speech defects, ADHD, autism, and none of those steps are proven, I believe. I had a post recently about the science disproving the link between vaccines and autism despite an early much-quoted study that said otherwise.
13:40 "chaotic system...butterfly flaps ...causes thunderstorm..." The immune system is far from chaotic. It is highly precise and specific. It is incredibly complex, certainly, but not chaotic. (There is an element of chaos that allows the body to randomly produce new antibodies against previously u encountered substance, but even this process is tightly controlled in nature.)
14:46 "RFK wants to give kids vaccines one at a time to see what their whole body effects are. And he's being painted as a devil for wanting that." 15:03 "we have brilliant scientists who could dream up ways of studying this that we can't even think of." This would be unethical given the risk of a child acquiring a preventable disease while awaiting the delay between successive vaccines. For instance, ADHD is usually diagnosed at ages 6 to 12. To study each vaccine's risk of ADHD, one would have to give vaccine or placebo to thousands of kids, AND not give them any other vaccine until they were 12. That would be thousands of kids not getting every other childhood vaccine until they were 12.
15:06 "the Amish avoid vaccines and they seem to be doing fine, right?" Not so. Here's a report of pertussis, a completely preventable disease affecting 345 preschool kids in an Amish community. It is not particularly lethal however. So, here's a report of polio cases in an Amish community - a lifelong disabling and preventable disease.
15:53 "Bill Gates study...vaccinated...died prematurely."
This has been disproven:"There was no evidence of interaction between DTP or BCG vaccination, neonatal vitamin A supplementation, and infant sex, on infant survival."
I hope this information and these references are helpful.
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